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Elie here. For today’s installment of The Decision, in which we advise prospective law students about where to enroll, we head out west. We talk about the military. We talk about the LDS community. Put another way, I’m about to talk completely out of my ass about things I don’t know a whole lot about. Embrace the train wreck.
Here’s our reader’s situation:
I just finished my undergraduate degree at [an elite university] and was lucky enough to get into a lot of great law schools. Even though I’ve been accepted to, among others, both NYU and Georgetown (which was my dream school and offered me a $60k scholarship), I’ve narrowed down the options to a full ride at BYU or a $108,000 scholarship at UT Austin (a combination of a a $20k per year scholarship, contingent only on maintaining a 1.9 GPA and not failing any classes, plus a nonresident tuition exemption, which would save me an additional $48k over the three years). This is mostly since I already know I’ll give four years to the government as a military judge advocate and then move on to public interest. In other words, I don’t plan on being rich, and I’m very risk-averse and averse to debt. I’ve decided it’s not worth being beholden to PSLF and LRAP to go to NYU or Georgetown, even given what I’m interested in doing (feel free to correct me here). If I go to BYU, I have the added benefit of staying with family and saving even more money.
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My main problem stems from wanting to do it all. Before I do my JAG time, I’d like to get a federal clerkship (another reason why I don’t feel the need to go to NYU or Georgetown — UT and BYU do just as well or better than them in that category). And as an aspiring public interest lawyer, clinics are important to me. BYU’s clinics are relatively new, while UT has awesome clinical programs, including one in legislative lawyering at the Texas Capitol. Further down the road, politics is also an interest of mine, where law school prestige may come into play.
In short, I’m wondering how much the name brand matters for any of these endeavors and, frankly, how much I should be weighing the USNWR rankings at all. I visited UT and BYU, loved both, and am very torn. If I had to choose today, I would go to BYU. Given what I want to do, is forking out $40k in tuition + ~$60k in living expenses for Texas justifiable in any way, or is this a no-brainer? I’m terrified of chasing prestige or falling into the trap of overvaluing discounts and undervaluing full rides.
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[Ed. note: The following piece was authored by The Legal Tease, of Sweet Hot Justice fame. Check out her other musings from Sweet Hot Justice here.]
Quick question: When you think of the average married, middle-aged guy slogging his way up the Big Law partner track, what’s the first thing that comes to mind? A pasty, bloated puppet? A bald head? An over-worked, under-stimulated robot, bunking in at the office while the wife lies safely, if not securely, back at home? Well, if the state of affairs in and around my firm is any indication, you’d be off the mark — way off the mark. Because as far as I can tell lately, when it comes to Big Law romance, a wedding ring is the new corporate aphrodisiac.
Just last Thursday, I was at a happy hour with a few guys from work when one, a married finance associate named Carson, suddenly came back from the bar, flushed and jittery. He claimed that a woman had just sidled up next to him, put her hand next to his, fingered his wedding ring and cooed out of the blue, “I think married men are sexy.” Carson, a sweet, former engineer and admitted card-carrying nerd, was so flustered that he took off without even taking the drink he’d just bought. So, obviously, the woman was a hooker… right? Who else would come up to a skinny, bling-free dork at a bar and lay down a line like that? Why not target the group of buzzed, Brioni-bearing bankers two feet down? Or could it be that this woman actually just had… a thing for nerdy married lawyers? A niche fetish, if you will? Sort of like those women who only date death-row inmates and convicted arsonists?
I chalked it up to a random anecdote and put it out of my mind. But then, just a couple of days later, at dinner with my friend, Kirsten, a single, fourth-year Big Law employment litigator with a lawyer’s brain and a stripper’s body, I started to wonder. I was telling her about my latest experiment in humiliation — one that found me crushing on (and then promptly crushed by) a charming, flirtatious client who turned out to be covertly engaged — and she actually put down her watermelon mojito mid-sip, shot me a look and told me I should’ve just “gone for it.” When I asked what exactly there was to “go for” in this situation, she shrugged and looked down.
“I don’t know. It’s just easier.” She then told me that she was in the middle of a “successful” affair with a married associate at her old firm. She explained that she wasn’t particularly head-over-heels, but the arrangement worked just fine because, after working insane hours week after week, she was able to get what she wanted and knew where she stood. And in case I was wondering, yes, she was the one who targeted him. My thoughts shot back to Carson and his fingered wedding ring. It was my turn to put down the drink.
More after the jump.
Now, let’s be clear for a second: I’m not one for moralizing. If you want to play in the married end of the pool, have at it; it’s just not my particular scene. When I meet a new guy at work and notice that he’s sporting The Ring (or its close relative, The Fiancée), I immediately place him in a new mental league of potential romantic partners — a league that includes gay guys, straight girls and convicted sex offenders. I’m just not interested — not, I admit, because I have such a deep and abiding respect for the ring, but because, frankly, what’s in it for me? What’s the upside for me of being the “other woman”? I don’t particularly need a sugar daddy and if I’m going to have a no-strings, go-nowhere, sex-romp “relationship” with a guy, well, that’s what 25-year-old bartenders, aspiring actor-writer-musicians and the occasional summer associate — not puffy, middle-aged, overworked lawyers — are for.
Then again, maybe I’m just scarred. Because, despite Kirsten’s strained endorsement, I can tell you first-hand from my one disastrous experience with (dis)respecting the ring within the halls of Big Law: It’s not easier. And if you’re not careful — and are anything like me — it can also leave you sitting in your office, exhausted, listening to the hysterical, slurred sobs of an unhinged lunatic calling you from a coat closet in the middle of the night.
Recall for a moment Ben, my fellow Big Law drone and sort-of-friend from law school who’s best remembered around these parts for his star turn in the night of vodka-inspired debauchery that played out on the floor of my office several months back. After the unexpected night of office sexing, Ben surprised me the next day with a stunning bouquet of whore flowers, complete with an equally stunning note. In the days that followed, he called every couple of hours, confessing his affection and desire to see me again and… the fact that he actually was “technically” engaged to a girl he’d been dating since college.
The minute his flimsy admission dribbled out, I felt so pathetic. I should’ve known. Of course. Of course he was too good to be true. I told Ben not to contact me again, threw his goddamn flowers in the garbage and chalked the incident up to temporary insanity (and boredom…and a desperate need for human contact…). I figured I’d never hear from him again. And then I woke up the next day to 21 missed calls on my cell phone — all hang-ups, all from Ben, and all left between midnight and 7 a.m. He must have finally passed out at that point, because the phone didn’t start ringing until about four hours later. The next time he called, I picked up. He sounded drunk. At 11 a.m. On a Tuesday.
He told me that he couldn’t stop thinking about me and insisted that I had it all wrong when it came to the “situation” between him and his fiancée.
“It’s just that, she’s kind of…zaftig,” he offered.
“What?”
“She’s…you know, big. She’s a big girl. Like heavier, I mean.”
“Jesus Christ, Ben, I know what ‘zaftig’ means. Why — why are you telling me this?”
“It’s just that, I know it sounds weird, but she actually wouldn’t mind.”
“Wouldn’t mind…?”
“Wouldn’t mind if you and me, you know. She’s actually a lot more understanding than you’d think. You’d be surprised.”
Hm. You bet. After about 10 minutes of this (un)amusing (non)banter, where Ben tried to convince me to see him again, and where I tried to pretend that my life was something I was watching on TV instead of actually living, he finally dropped the bomb.
Boom goes the dynamite, back over at Sweet Hot Justice….